tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769871335743353227.post4682837988393396023..comments2023-11-03T03:08:39.325-07:00Comments on Kendell Lang Social Media Keynote Speaker: Hizb ut Tahrir and the Muslim Brotherhood Should Be Banned in the United States of America!Fusion Farmshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07933427789520092884noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769871335743353227.post-81181519501367741312011-10-11T16:54:32.456-07:002011-10-11T16:54:32.456-07:00Again with the anger and insults, and again with n...Again with the anger and insults, and again with no response of any legitimacy based on facts, truth or logic. The muslim brotherhood themselves are taking credit for the arab spring and your quote of the self-serving leftist propaganda trying to downplay what or who is the brotherhood doesn't do anything other than provide you with the biased source that fits your world view. Why not read someone who has done their homework and isn't associated with Fox News, but what you might consider a credible leftist media outlet? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/world/middleeast/25egypt.html?pagewanted=all clearly identifies the complete opposite of what you're suggesting. <br /><br />Just because the CIA and U.S. govt has kept contacts with the Brotherhood doesn't make them any more legitimate or less evil.<br /><br />I'm not right or left...I believe they're both corrupt...I'm after the truth and I'm tired of being lied to by both sides which both have an agenda which they can't seem to articulate without lying. <br /><br />If you'd like to have a logical discussion about facts and truth in terms of what's really going on...that is a worthwhile dialogue. I'm open to the discussion and truly want to understand what's going on. I'm open to the possibility that I don't have all the facts, in fact I'm pretty certain I don't have all the facts. Nonetheless, I'm searching for the truth and am most interested in what the agenda is behind all the global movements going on.<br /><br />So, are you part of the Brotherhood? Are you part of another organization? Are you willing to identify yourself and go on the record personally as I've done. I'm not afraid to speak my mind and tell you exactly who I am and where I live. I'm in Del Mar, California and welcome the opportunity to discuss further to really try and understand what makes you tick. I am bored with your useless insults and just so we're clear, you may have felt like I was insulting you when I asked you if you were a "useful idiot" so you should know that in political jargon, the term useful idiot was used to describe Soviet sympathizers in Western countries. The implication is that though the person in question naïvely thinks themselves an ally of the Soviets or other ideologies, they are actually held in contempt by the Soviets, and were being cynically used. Are you being cynically used by some organization to further their agenda?Fusion Farmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933427789520092884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769871335743353227.post-75940076952578100692011-10-10T22:55:42.538-07:002011-10-10T22:55:42.538-07:00Hard to believe that you exceeded my already dimin...Hard to believe that you exceeded my already diminished expectations of how low right wing idiots are capable of sinking to articulate their failed thoughts and ideas. I guess this is what is to be expected of a failed education system, a steady diet of Fox Noise and trailer talk radio, where blaming others (liberals, socialists, "Islamists" etc.) for your own failure to understand the world and your role in it is a way of life.<br /><br />3 points:<br /><br />1) Muslim brotherhood (like al Quaeda) was/is irrelevant to the Arab Spring as well as to the Middle East, they can try to claim they were involved or even led it, but any objective observer of region who knows even basic arabic or facts on the ground can attest to that:<br /><br />http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/09/20/the_irrelevance_of_the_international_muslim_brotherhood_0<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/al-qaida-irrelevant-arab-spring<br /><br />2. May also wish to ask the CIA and U.S. govt. officials why they kept contacts with the Brotherhood since the Eisenhower administration:<br /><br />http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2011/feb/05/washingtons-secret-history-muslim-brotherhood/<br /><br />3. I know MEMRI is a favorite of the trailer talk radio set, but among serious academics and journalists (not opinion paid whores at Fox Noise and other outlets) it is seen for what its role actually is, an Israeli govt. propaganda outfit designed to shill and spin events with Israel's interests first and foremost:<br /><br />Selective MEMRI:<br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/12/worlddispatch.brianwhitaker<br /><br />You might wish to answer a modified version of your own question here:<br /><br />are you another in a sea of aspiring deaf, dumb, and blind right wing idiots or just another "useful idiot" blindly following whoever is feeding your anger and hatred?Gambit57https://www.blogger.com/profile/07525051471374105709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769871335743353227.post-9766241505126861022011-10-09T13:51:12.241-07:002011-10-09T13:51:12.241-07:00Hey Gambit57, you don't know me...so you have ...Hey Gambit57, you don't know me...so you have no idea whether I'm a little slow or not, and that is such a typical socialist response that when you have nothing else to submit for reasonable discussion or debate you have to fall back on name calling and insults. How about just trying sharing your beliefs supported by facts? The truth has no agenda, so if you search for truth you'll potentially learn something, like the reality about the "Arab spring" with which I'm very familiar thanks. I in fact have a passport and have traveled extensively, and unlike you, I actually do my homework and know the facts. So, did you know that the Arab Spring in Egypt has now been coop'd by the Muslim Brotherhood? There was an interview with the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt you can see at http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5601.htm. On August 13, 2011, the Egyptian daily Roz Al-Yousef published an interview with Sheikh 'Adel Shehato, a senior official in Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ), who, on March 23, 2011, was freed from prison in the wake of the Egyptian revolution. He was imprisoned in 1991 upon returning from a three-year sojourn in Afghanistan. Adel Shehato stated “If we come to power, we will launch a campaign of Islamic conquests to instate Shari’a worldwide” and ‘The Christian is Free to Worship His God in His Church, but if the Christians Make Problems for the Muslims, I Will Exterminate Them.’ Scary stuff, so Gambit57, are you an Islamic Jihadist or just another "useful idiot" blindly following whoever is feeding your anger and hatred?Fusion Farmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933427789520092884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1769871335743353227.post-57565159953535132322011-10-09T09:23:50.112-07:002011-10-09T09:23:50.112-07:00I know you might be a little slow and challenged t...I know you might be a little slow and challenged to grasp this, but being banned in an American backed Arab or Islamic dictatorship isn't something to be the least ashamed of. Have you heard of the "Arab spring"?<br /><br />How much of U.S. taxpayer dollars went to shore up those regimes? Here is a hint:<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/04/hosni-mubarak-family-fortune<br /><br />http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/24/1010173/-Wikileaks-Cable:-McCain-promised-Qaddafi-to-help-secure-US-military-equipment<br /><br />try to read a little more or even get a passport and go see the world a bit before foaming at the mouth.Gambit57https://www.blogger.com/profile/07525051471374105709noreply@blogger.com